Problem with named ranges

JenniferMurphy

JenniferMurphy

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I swear I've done this before, but it's not working today and I cannot figure out why.

In the table below, I have assigned the name "Header" to row 6 and "Footer" to row 12. In C12, I calculate the average of the ratings in C7:C11. In C13, I try to do the same thing, but using the named ranges. Why isn't it working?
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[TD]C19: =COLUMN(OFFSET(Header,1,0))[/TD]
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[TD]C21: =COLUMN(OFFSET(Footer,-1,0))[/TD]
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JenniferMurphy said:
In C14 & C15, I put the two arguments and they return the correct values. In C16:C19, I calculate the row and column values for these two arguments. The rows are correct (7 & 11), but the columns are not (1). Why is that?
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Because your formulas are in column C, you get an implicit intersection with the result range in the absence of any other function (for C14 and C15). So it's the same as if you had typed =7:7 in C14, without array entering it.

The row number is of course the same regardless of where you are and the column is returning the first column of the named range, which will always be 1 for an entire named row.
 
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Why does 9 mean SUM in SUBTOTAL?
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[TD="colspan: 4"]to get the original total of 15 I used[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]1014[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 6"]this total is the "correct" total after the modifications listed here[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 4"]=SUM(INDIRECT(F1):INDIRECT(G1))[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 3"]I then deleted rows 2 and 6[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]so numlist was in A7 and endlist was in row 13[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 6"]F1 is now A8 and G1 is now A12 and the total is correct[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 4"]I then inserted 3 new rows under row 10[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 4"]so F1 remains A8 and G1 becomes A15[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 3"]the total remains at 15 (correct)[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 3"]Finally I added 999 in A11[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 7"]and the total is now 1014 being the sum of 1,2,3,999,blank,blank,4,5[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 10"]any deleted or inserted rows between A2 and A1000 will be accommodated and the total remains correct[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 6"]to start with, numlist was in A9 and A10 to A14 was 1,2,3,4,5[/TD]
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RoryA said:
Because your formulas are in column C, you get an implicit intersection with the result range in the absence of any other function (for C14 and C15). So it's the same as if you had typed =7:7 in C14, without array entering it.

The row number is of course the same regardless of where you are and the column is returning the first column of the named range, which will always be 1 for an entire named row.
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Very helpful, thanks.

I've updated the table to show two different ways to do what I want.

In rows 10-12, I used the named rows Header and Footer. I also named the columns C-E (Rating0, Weight1, & Rating1). This allows me to use named ranges with the Space operator (intersect) to get specific cells.

In rows 13-15, I named the individual header and footer cells and used those names to get expressions that are better at self-documentation (IMHO).

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I also used the named columns to get clear, simple expressions in E5-E9.

With this arrangement, I can add or delete rows anywhere between the Header and Footer rows and the calculations will adjust and be correct.

Again, thanks for all the help. I think I understand it now.
 
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oldbrewer said:
So, "[C12] =AVERAGE(C7:C11)" simply means that cell C12 contains the expression "=AVERAGE(C7:C11)".

as I said, I am on a learning curve here.
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Some time ago, I wrote a little UDF with a lot of help from Rick Rothstein and others here to display the text of any expression in any cell. It has been very helpful to me in debugging workbooks.

I've uploaded the code to this Dropbox folder. Feel free to use it if you find it useful.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ti4k3krdbvr0aap/GetFormula Function.txt?dl=0

I understand that Excel 2013 now has a built-in function to do this, so this UDF may not be that useful in the future.

If you add 100 rows between rows 8 and 9 how does that work please ?
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If you add rows in the middle of a named range, the range will adjust. If you add a row above the top row or below the bottom row, it will not. If you copy the top row down, the range will adjust. If you copy it up, it will not. Similarly, if you copy the bottom row up, the range will adjust. If you copy it down, it will not.

This is all to much for me to remember and not screw up. So I name the cell just above the top cell and just below the bottom cell and use Offset to address the range. Then I can add rows anywhere and it works. It's a little more work, but many fewer errors.

ymmv
 
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