Is it possible to store more than one number in a cell (i.e. an array in a cell), and how can the nth element be referenced in formulas?

Rnkhch

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Hello,

I'm wondering if it is possible to store more than one number in an array. I'm hoping I can reduce the size of my large score sheets by storing the scores of each student in one cell where for example the first element would be math score, the second physics score, the third chemistry score, etc., like this:

A1={98,83,87,90,93}

If this is possible, how would I reference the nth element in the cell to use in subsequent calculations?

Thanks a lot for any input!
 
Re: Is it possible to strore more than one number in a cell (i.e. an array in a cell), and how can the nth element be referenced in formulas?

Thanks!

And excellent discussion. I learned so much through this thread :)

You're welcome, I assume your question in Post # 10 is taken cared of...
 
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Re: Is it possible to strore more than one number in a cell (i.e. an array in a cell), and how can the nth element be referenced in formulas?

Hello Jtakw

I understand how the command of MID works, but I’m trying to figure out SUBSTITUTE and REPT, especially how they work together here. I played with your formula by changing the numbers, and found it still seemed to work as long as I kept the same relationship between the ‘30’ and ‘29’.

1 ) Is there any reason you picked ‘30’ rather than some other number?
2 ) If there were more than 15 characters, how would that change your formula? E.g. 20 or 30 characters.

TotallyConfused

Sorry didn't get back to you sooner, had a busy weekend.

The SUBSTITUTE was used to replace the commas within the text string, using the REPT function, with 30 " " (spaces).
So now we have 30 spaces separating each substring, using the MID function, we can now extract the assigned nth element substring.

As far as why I used 30 rather than any other number, there's no definitive answer...each situation is different, so that number will be different for different types of text strings we're working on.
Here, I chose 30 because we're working with numbers, and it's reasonable to assume OP wanted the extracted numbers converted to Real Numbers (not Text, that's where the +0 at the end of the formula does, and also why we removed it when you were using the formula for TEXT rather than numbers), and since Excel can only do Math up to 15 digits, I doubled up to give myself some "cushion", so I chose 30.
Since OP's data are student test scores, it is reasonable to assume the numbers will only be anywhere from 1 to 3 digits, so in theory, 6 would work (but Not 3 due to the possible variances between 1 to 3 digits).

But this number will Also depend on how "Large" the original text string is, meaning it's Total length.
For instance, if the length of the original text string is in the Hundreds or even Thousands, then 30 may Not be sufficient to handle the extraction, because eventually, the extraction will get "thrown off" due to the varying length of the substrings.
So for instances like this, we should use LEN(A2) rather than a set number, so why not just use LEN(A2) for All instances?, "Speed", for this particular formula, the effect is minimal, but there are extraction formulas where LEN(A2) would be used multiple times, and that would slow down the formula.
So if the total length of the original text string is Not "Large", and we know the substrings are within a certain Size, we choose the number accordingly.
Therefore, if your substrings are 20 to 30 characters long, then double up would be a save number to use, but I would probably just use 99 or 100 at that point.

Hope this somewhat clarifies it for you. :)
 
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Re: Is it possible to strore more than one number in a cell (i.e. an array in a cell), and how can the nth element be referenced in formulas?

@ TotallyConfused,

I just realized, for your Text extraction, we should add the TRIM function to rid the Leading and/or Trailing spaces:


Book1
ABCD
1nth ElementResult
2AB,CD,E,FG,HIJ4FG
Sheet298
Cell Formulas
RangeFormula
D2=TRIM(MID(SUBSTITUTE(A2,",",REPT(" ",30)),C2*30-29,30))


Edit: The TRIM function is not needed for Number extractions if we were converting the result to Real Numbers by using +0, it will automatically remove All leading/trailing spaces.
 
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Re: Is it possible to strore more than one number in a cell (i.e. an array in a cell), and how can the nth element be referenced in formulas?

You're welcome, I assume your question in Post # 10 is taken cared of...


Yes, thanks a lot! Your subsequent explanations were also great! I learned so much!!
 
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Re: Is it possible to strore more than one number in a cell (i.e. an array in a cell), and how can the nth element be referenced in formulas?

.. what would be the best way to put scores from multiple sheets into one cell?

A2=Math!A2,Physics!A2,Chemistry!A2,Language!A2,Arts!A2
I'm a late entry to the thread but just back to this question for a moment. jtakw has provided a perfectly fine solution with ..
=Math!A2&","&Physics!A2&","&Chemistry!A2&","&Language!A2&","&Arts!A2
However, if you have the TEXTJOIN function (latest versions of Excel) you could also do it like this, provided you keep particular subject sheets at the left & right ends of the subject sheets (Math at left and Arts at right for me) and don't have any non-subject sheets between those end sheets. It may not be particularly relevant here but this would be especially useful if there were many subject sheets as the same formula will handle 20 sheets just as well as 3.

=TEXTJOIN(",",FALSE,Math:Arts!A2)

@TotallyConfused
This thread has become quite difficult to follow due to the introduction of your question.
In future, if you have a related question to an old thread it is fine to ask your follow-up in that thread.
However, if the thread is currently active you would be best to start your own new thread & provide a link to the existing one to say your question is related to that existing one. That way, the two conversations are kept separate and are each much easier to follow.
 
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Re: Is it possible to strore more than one number in a cell (i.e. an array in a cell), and how can the nth element be referenced in formulas?

Awesome, thanks a lot Peter! Works really well! :)
 
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Re: Is it possible to strore more than one number in a cell (i.e. an array in a cell), and how can the nth element be referenced in formulas?

Awesome, thanks a lot Peter! Works really well! :)
No problem. Cheers. :)
 
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Re: Is it possible to strore more than one number in a cell (i.e. an array in a cell), and how can the nth element be referenced in formulas?

I'm a late entry to the thread but just back to this question for a moment. jtakw has provided a perfectly fine solution with ..
However, if you have the TEXTJOIN function (latest versions of Excel) you could also do it like this, provided you keep particular subject sheets at the left & right ends of the subject sheets (Math at left and Arts at right for me) and don't have any non-subject sheets between those end sheets. It may not be particularly relevant here but this would be especially useful if there were many subject sheets as the same formula will handle 20 sheets just as well as 3.

=TEXTJOIN(",",FALSE,Math:Arts!A2)


@TotallyConfused
This thread has become quite difficult to follow due to the introduction of your question.
In future, if you have a related question to an old thread it is fine to ask your follow-up in that thread.
However, if the thread is currently active you would be best to start your own new thread & provide a link to the existing one to say your question is related to that existing one. That way, the two conversations are kept separate and are each much easier to follow.

Hello Peter

Please accept my apology for inserting my question into someone else’s thread. You are correct when you said that my doing so has made the thread harder to follow. It certainly was not my intention to divert attention away from the question posed by the original poster. I shall endeavor to keep this in mind for any future threads.

As a side note, thank you for suggesting the formula of =TEXTJOIN(“,”,FALSE,Math:Arts!A2) as another possible solution to the question posed by Rnkhch. (see Posting #25) I have the latest version of Excel but had never came across that command.

Every time I log into this wonderful site, I learn something new. This is an amazing place.

TotallyConfused
 
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Re: Is it possible to strore more than one number in a cell (i.e. an array in a cell), and how can the nth element be referenced in formulas?

Hello Jtakw
I’m sorry for taking so long to write this note of appreciation but things have been quite busy around here the past few days. I do want to say THANK YOU for your detailed explanation (posting #22 ) to my question about the formula you suggested in posting #23 . Your explanation cleared up two or three things that were puzzling me. You are a good teacher.
Thanks again.
TotallyConfused
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Re: Is it possible to strore more than one number in a cell (i.e. an array in a cell), and how can the nth element be referenced in formulas?

Yes, definitely an awesome thread. I learned a lot too!

Here is a follow-up question:

I noticed that if I use jtakw's mechanism from post #6 to call the nth numbers from the cells and use them in formulas, it's not possible to have them work in a "range". For example, in regular cells I could write:

A4=AVERAGE(($A1):($A3))

However, I cannot write:

A4=((MID(SUBSTITUTE($A1,",",REPT(" ",30)),1*30-29,30)+0):(MID(SUBSTITUTE($A3,",",REPT(" ",30)),1*30-29,30)+0))

But as soon as I change that colon to a comma, it recognizes the first numbers in A1 and A3 and gives me the average:

A4=((MID(SUBSTITUTE($A1,",",REPT(" ",30)),1*30-29,30)+0),(MID(SUBSTITUTE($A3,",",REPT(" ",30)),1*30-29,30)+0))

So to get the average of three numbers as originally intended, I would have to write this:

A4=((MID(SUBSTITUTE($A1,",",REPT(" ",30)),1*30-29,30)+0),
(MID(SUBSTITUTE($A2,",",REPT(" ",30)),1*30-29,30)+0),
(MID(SUBSTITUTE($A3,",",REPT(" ",30)),1*30-29,30)+0))

And this would be cumbersome for long ranges. But since jtakw's formula is such a wonderful mechanism of making cell arrays, I'm wondering whether there are any tricks possible to make this mechanism to be range-aware :)

Thanks!
 
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