Pivot table overlapping categories

kcmuppet

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I'm going nuts with one of my first attempts at pivot table analyses - I hope somebody can help

I want to see income by product and product category, like this:
<b>Sales by Product</b><br /><br /><table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Arial Narrow,Arial; font-size:8pt; background-color:#ffffff; padding-left:2pt; padding-right:2pt; "> <colgroup><col style="font-weight:bold; width:30px; " /><col style="width:145px;" /><col style="width:48px;" /><col style="width:48px;" /><col style="width:48px;" /><col style="width:48px;" /><col style="width:48px;" /><col style="width:48px;" /><col style="width:55px;" /></colgroup><tr style="background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; font-weight:bold; font-size:8pt; "><td >*</td><td >B</td><td >C</td><td >D</td><td >E</td><td >F</td><td >G</td><td >H</td><td >I</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >18</td><td style="font-weight:bold; ">Contribution of each Product - by (Month)</td><td >*</td><td >*</td><td >*</td><td >*</td><td >*</td><td >*</td><td >*</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >19</td><td >Sum of Income</td><td >Year</td><td >*</td><td >*</td><td >*</td><td >*</td><td >*</td><td >*</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >20</td><td >Product Categories</td><td style="text-align:right; ">2004</td><td style="text-align:right; ">2005</td><td style="text-align:right; ">2006</td><td style="text-align:right; ">2007</td><td style="text-align:right; ">2008</td><td style="text-align:right; ">2009</td><td >Grand Total</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >21</td><td >Single sheet marketing</td><td style="text-align:right; ">244,788</td><td style="text-align:right; ">215,601</td><td style="text-align:right; ">311,547</td><td style="text-align:right; ">417,984</td><td style="text-align:right; ">534,472</td><td style="text-align:right; ">354,512</td><td style="text-align:right; ">2,078,904</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >22</td><td >Brochures & Catalogues</td><td style="text-align:right; ">248,823</td><td style="text-align:right; ">321,185</td><td style="text-align:right; ">275,085</td><td style="text-align:right; ">545,247</td><td style="text-align:right; ">292,151</td><td style="text-align:right; ">110,339</td><td style="text-align:right; ">1,792,830</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >23</td><td >Pre-press</td><td style="text-align:right; ">158,289</td><td style="text-align:right; ">191,739</td><td style="text-align:right; ">142,416</td><td style="text-align:right; ">195,973</td><td style="text-align:right; ">140,146</td><td style="text-align:right; ">48,771</td><td style="text-align:right; ">877,334</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >24</td><td >Greetings Cards & Invitations</td><td style="text-align:right; ">71,539</td><td style="text-align:right; ">106,745</td><td style="text-align:right; ">142,101</td><td style="text-align:right; ">212,221</td><td style="text-align:right; ">202,975</td><td style="text-align:right; ">133,912</td><td style="text-align:right; ">869,493</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >25</td><td >Reports / Booklets / Newsletters</td><td style="text-align:right; ">104,826</td><td style="text-align:right; ">79,471</td><td style="text-align:right; ">119,623</td><td style="text-align:right; ">240,686</td><td style="text-align:right; ">179,817</td><td style="text-align:right; ">92,846</td><td style="text-align:right; ">817,269</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >26</td><td >Stationery</td><td style="text-align:right; ">86,188</td><td style="text-align:right; ">94,765</td><td style="text-align:right; ">130,172</td><td style="text-align:right; ">138,515</td><td style="text-align:right; ">137,122</td><td style="text-align:right; ">59,428</td><td style="text-align:right; ">646,189</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >27</td><td >Magazine</td><td style="text-align:right; ">144,150</td><td style="text-align:right; ">77,845</td><td style="text-align:right; ">53,581</td><td style="text-align:right; ">103,684</td><td style="text-align:right; ">84,642</td><td style="text-align:right; ">40,276</td><td style="text-align:right; ">504,177</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >28</td><td >Point of Sale Material</td><td style="text-align:right; ">5,285</td><td style="text-align:right; ">9,225</td><td style="text-align:right; ">26,558</td><td style="text-align:right; ">60,606</td><td style="text-align:right; ">93,227</td><td style="text-align:right; ">54,517</td><td style="text-align:right; ">249,417</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >29</td><td >Stickers / Labels</td><td style="text-align:right; ">15,784</td><td style="text-align:right; ">20,784</td><td style="text-align:right; ">38,729</td><td style="text-align:right; ">29,323</td><td style="text-align:right; ">32,913</td><td style="text-align:right; ">26,914</td><td style="text-align:right; ">164,446</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >30</td><td >Vouchers / tickets</td><td style="text-align:right; ">18,541</td><td style="text-align:right; ">13,961</td><td style="text-align:right; ">9,112</td><td style="text-align:right; ">11,207</td><td style="text-align:right; ">7,599</td><td style="text-align:right; ">102,601</td><td style="text-align:right; ">163,022</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >31</td><td >Menus</td><td style="text-align:right; ">28,613</td><td style="text-align:right; ">39,161</td><td style="text-align:right; ">18,227</td><td style="text-align:right; ">13,681</td><td style="text-align:right; ">13,545</td><td style="text-align:right; ">18,020</td><td style="text-align:right; ">131,246</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >32</td><td >Content services</td><td style="text-align:right; ">12,700</td><td style="text-align:right; ">13,925</td><td style="text-align:right; ">12,925</td><td style="text-align:right; ">15,275</td><td style="text-align:right; ">14,075</td><td style="text-align:right; ">1,150</td><td style="text-align:right; ">70,050</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >33</td><td >Custom / large format</td><td style="text-align:right; ">1,500</td><td style="text-align:right; ">2,061</td><td style="text-align:right; ">3,130</td><td style="text-align:right; ">3,052</td><td style="text-align:right; ">1,394</td><td style="text-align:right; ">738</td><td style="text-align:right; ">11,875</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >34</td><td >Tear Sheet</td><td >*</td><td >*</td><td >*</td><td >*</td><td style="text-align:right; ">3,874</td><td style="text-align:right; ">5,534</td><td style="text-align:right; ">9,408</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >35</td><td >Grand Total</td><td style="text-align:right; ">1,141,024</td><td style="text-align:right; ">1,186,466</td><td style="text-align:right; ">1,283,208</td><td style="text-align:right; ">1,987,453</td><td style="text-align:right; ">1,737,952</td><td style="text-align:right; ">1,049,558</td><td style="text-align:right; ">8,385,661</td></tr></table> <br />


But
I have invoice data that I have tried to categorize into products and product groups, based on keywords in the invoice description. Example below:

<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Arial Narrow,Arial; font-size:8pt; background-color:#ffffff; padding-left:2pt; padding-right:2pt; "> <colgroup><col style="font-weight:bold; width:30px; " /><col style="width:77px;" /><col style="width:77px;" /><col style="width:59px;" /><col style="width:77px;" /><col style="width:205px;" /><col style="width:318px;" /></colgroup><tr style="background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; font-weight:bold; font-size:8pt; "><td >*</td><td >A</td><td >B</td><td >C</td><td >D</td><td >E</td><td >F</td></tr><tr style="height:19px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >1</td><td style="font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Invoice Date</td><td style="font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Year</td><td style="font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Month</td><td style="font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Income</td><td style="font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Products</td><td style="font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Product Categories</td></tr><tr style="height:19px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >2</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:center; ">26 Jul 05</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">2005</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">7</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">200</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Menus,Flyers / Leaflets</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Menus,Single sheet marketing</td></tr><tr style="height:19px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >3</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:center; ">26 Aug 04</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">2004</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">8</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">917</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Letterheads,Compliment Slips</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Stationery</td></tr><tr style="height:19px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >4</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:center; ">05 Jan 05</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">2005</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">1</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">668</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Letterheads,Compliment Slips</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Stationery</td></tr><tr style="height:19px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >5</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:center; ">15 Jan 07</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">2007</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">1</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">329</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Invitations,Posters</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Greetings Cards & Invitations,Single sheet marketing</td></tr><tr style="height:19px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >6</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:center; ">28 Oct 08</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">2008</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">10</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">408.9</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Letterheads,Compliment slips</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Stationery</td></tr><tr style="height:19px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >7</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:center; ">14 Nov 08</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">2008</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">11</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">417.13</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Stickers,Signs</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Stickers / Labels,Custom / large format</td></tr><tr style="height:19px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >8</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:center; ">15 Apr 04</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">2004</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">4</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">360</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Letterheads,Business Cards</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Stationery</td></tr><tr style="height:19px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >9</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:center; ">29 Apr 04</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">2004</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">4</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">295</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Letterheads,Business Cards</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Stationery</td></tr><tr style="height:19px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >10</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:center; ">13 May 04</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">2004</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">5</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">125</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Reports,Invitations</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Reports / Booklets / Newsletters,Greetings Cards & Invitations</td></tr><tr style="height:19px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >11</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:center; ">28 Sep 04</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">2004</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">9</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">204</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Letterheads,Compliment Slips</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Stationery</td></tr><tr style="height:19px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >12</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:center; ">28 Aug 07</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">2007</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">8</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">370.5</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Business Cards,Brochure</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Stationery,Brochures & Catalogues</td></tr><tr style="height:19px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >13</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:center; ">26 Oct 07</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">2007</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">10</td><td style="font-family:Arial; text-align:right; ">192.25</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Business Cards,Flyers / Leaflets</td><td style="font-family:Arial; ">Stationery,Single sheet marketing</td></tr></table>

So the problem is, I have multiple products per invoice, and also multiple (compound) product categories, like this:

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So I thought it might be better to organize the product types as columns, like this:

<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Arial Narrow,Arial; font-size:8pt; background-color:#ffffff; padding-left:2pt; padding-right:2pt; "> <colgroup><col style="font-weight:bold; width:30px; " /><col style="width:77px;" /><col style="width:77px;" /><col style="width:59px;" /><col style="width:77px;" /><col style="width:205px;" /><col style="width:38px;" /><col style="width:38px;" /><col style="width:38px;" /><col style="width:38px;" /><col style="width:38px;" /><col style="width:38px;" /><col style="width:38px;" /><col style="width:38px;" /></colgroup><tr style="background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; font-weight:bold; font-size:8pt; "><td >*</td><td >A</td><td >B</td><td >C</td><td >D</td><td >E</td><td >G</td><td >H</td><td >I</td><td >J</td><td >K</td><td >L</td><td >M</td><td >N</td></tr><tr style="height:56px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >1</td><td style="font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Invoice Date</td><td style="font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Year</td><td style="font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Month</td><td style="font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Income</td><td style="font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Products</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Business Cards</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Christmas Cards</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Compliment slips</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Invitations</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Letterheads</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Magazine</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Mailing</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial; ">Menus</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >2</td><td style="text-align:right; ">20/07/2005</td><td style="text-align:right; ">2005</td><td style="text-align:right; ">7</td><td style="text-align:right; ">358.38</td><td >Letterheads,Compliment slips</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">Compliment slips</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">Letterheads</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >3</td><td style="text-align:right; ">16/11/2005</td><td style="text-align:right; ">2005</td><td style="text-align:right; ">11</td><td style="text-align:right; ">458.26</td><td >Letterheads,Business Cards</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">Business Cards</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">Letterheads</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >4</td><td style="text-align:right; ">07/01/2008</td><td style="text-align:right; ">2008</td><td style="text-align:right; ">1</td><td style="text-align:right; ">1540.13</td><td >Tickets,Menus</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">Menus</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >5</td><td style="text-align:right; ">22/07/2009</td><td style="text-align:right; ">2009</td><td style="text-align:right; ">7</td><td style="text-align:right; ">465.75</td><td >Postcards,Invitations</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">Invitations</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >6</td><td style="text-align:right; ">05/03/2004</td><td style="text-align:right; ">2004</td><td style="text-align:right; ">3</td><td style="text-align:right; ">502.25</td><td >Business Cards,Mailing</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">Business Cards</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">Mailing</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >7</td><td style="text-align:right; ">18/11/2005</td><td style="text-align:right; ">2005</td><td style="text-align:right; ">11</td><td style="text-align:right; ">260.25</td><td >Brochure,Mailing</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">Mailing</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td></tr><tr style="height:21px ;" ><td style="font-size:8pt; background-color:#cacaca; text-align:center; " >8</td><td style="text-align:right; ">09/03/2006</td><td style="text-align:right; ">2006</td><td style="text-align:right; ">3</td><td style="text-align:right; ">568.7</td><td >Letterheads,Compliment Slips</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">Compliment slips</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">Letterheads</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td><td style="background-color:#c0c0c0; ">*</td></tr></table> <br />

But using those as column headings I can't seem to get summaries - only nested figures.

What is the best way of organising my data so that I can get a table that looks like the top one? (I realise that there will be some double counting, but that is OK for now).

In case it makes a difference, I have 36k records, 50 product types and 16 product categories. Each product type only belongs to one category.

Any help is greatly appreciated as I've been at this for two days, reading as much as I can on the web, but as you can see I've not got very far! :(
 

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Wuuld really appreciate some help here.

Is the question too complicated?
 
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if you could start from scratch, best way would be to normalise your data - simplest way to describe that is that if you've two categories for a record, you need it to occucpy two rows, not flag it single row in two columns.

is that feasible?
 
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Thanks Paddy,

I expect I'd need some kind of code to do that, and would end up with 3-6 times as many records

I was wondering if I should maybe attempt a sumproduct on columns E & F instead of a pivot table, if sumproduct can be made to work on partial matches.
 
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"I expect I'd need some kind of code to do that, and would end up with 3-6 times as many records"

I'd characterise it as the right number of records, given your analytical requirements. Also, how do you want to deal with the double counting issue? If you've got x dollars for 'business cards, mailing', do you count the total twice? if not, what's the allocation method for the categories?
 
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