JenniferMurphy
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I am helping a friend plan for retirement. She wanted to get some idea of how much she could withdraw from her retirement savings to help the grandkids without putting her own needs at risk. I started to put together a table using the FV (future value) function, but ran into a problem. I set up her current retirement account balance as one constant and the annual interest rate as another. The table would then have rows of withdrawal amounts and columns of years. The Year 1 appreciation field is to show what amount would keep the retirement balance constant.
I got it to work, but only at the expense of a complex and error-prone formula to extract the number of years from the headers.
I tried a number of other solutions, most of which either didn't work or were worse than the problem. I finally came up with this. It uses a helper row, which raises the problem of explaining the need for that row. I could hide it or change the character color to white. But it works and the formulas inside the table are much more readable and less error prone.
Is there a better way?
I got it to work, but only at the expense of a complex and error-prone formula to extract the number of years from the headers.
Future Value.xlsx | ||||||||||
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C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | |||
3 | $100,000 | Initial balance | ||||||||
4 | 4.00% | Annual appreciation rate | ||||||||
5 | $4,000 | Year 1 appreciation | ||||||||
6 | ||||||||||
7 | Annual Withdrawal | Year 1 | Year 3 | Year 7 | Year 10 | Year 15 | Year 20 | APR | ||
8 | $0 | $104,000 | $112,486 | $131,593 | $148,024 | $180,094 | $219,112 | +4.00% | ||
9 | $2,000 | $102,000 | $106,243 | $115,797 | $124,012 | $140,047 | $159,556 | +2.00% | ||
10 | $4,000 | $100,000 | $100,000 | $100,000 | $100,000 | $100,000 | $100,000 | =0.00% | ||
11 | $5,000 | $99,000 | $96,878 | $92,102 | $87,994 | $79,976 | $70,222 | -1.00% | ||
12 | $6,000 | $98,000 | $93,757 | $84,203 | $75,988 | $59,953 | $40,444 | -2.00% | ||
13 | $7,000 | $97,000 | $90,635 | $76,305 | $63,982 | $39,929 | $10,666 | -3.00% | ||
Future Value |
Cell Formulas | ||
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Range | Formula | |
C5 | C5 | =InitBal1*AnnualRate1 |
D8:D13 | D8 | =LET(n,RIGHT(TableFV1[[#Headers],[Year 1]],LEN(TableFV1[[#Headers],[Year 1]])-5),FV(AnnualRate1,n,[@[Annual Withdrawal]],-InitBal1,0)) |
E8:E13 | E8 | =LET(n,RIGHT(TableFV1[[#Headers],[Year 3]],LEN(TableFV1[[#Headers],[Year 3]])-5),FV(AnnualRate1,n,[@[Annual Withdrawal]],-InitBal1,0)) |
F8:F13 | F8 | =LET(n,RIGHT(TableFV1[[#Headers],[Year 7]],LEN(TableFV1[[#Headers],[Year 7]])-5),FV(AnnualRate1,n,[@[Annual Withdrawal]],-InitBal1,0)) |
G8:G13 | G8 | =LET(n,RIGHT(TableFV1[[#Headers],[Year 10]],LEN(TableFV1[[#Headers],[Year 10]])-5),FV(AnnualRate1,n,[@[Annual Withdrawal]],-InitBal1,0)) |
H8:H13 | H8 | =LET(n,RIGHT(TableFV1[[#Headers],[Year 15]],LEN(TableFV1[[#Headers],[Year 10]])-5),FV(AnnualRate1,n,[@[Annual Withdrawal]],-InitBal1,0)) |
I8:I13 | I8 | =LET(n,RIGHT(TableFV1[[#Headers],[Year 20]],LEN(TableFV1[[#Headers],[Year 10]])-5),FV(AnnualRate1,n,[@[Annual Withdrawal]],-InitBal1,0)) |
J8:J13 | J8 | =[@[Year 1]]/InitBal1-1 |
C9 | C9 | =Year1Appr1/2 |
C10 | C10 | =Year1Appr1 |
Named Ranges | ||
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Name | Refers To | Cells |
'Future Value'!AnnualRate1 | ='Future Value'!$C$4 | C5, D8:I13 |
'Future Value'!InitBal1 | ='Future Value'!$C$3 | C5, D8:J13 |
'Future Value'!Year1Appr1 | ='Future Value'!$C$5 | C9:C10 |
I tried a number of other solutions, most of which either didn't work or were worse than the problem. I finally came up with this. It uses a helper row, which raises the problem of explaining the need for that row. I could hide it or change the character color to white. But it works and the formulas inside the table are much more readable and less error prone.
Future Value.xlsx | ||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | |||
3 | $100,000 | Initial balance | ||||||||
4 | 4.00% | Annual appreciation rate | ||||||||
5 | $4,000 | Year 1 appreciation | ||||||||
6 | 1 | 3 | 7 | 10 | 15 | 20 | ||||
7 | Annual Withdrawal | Year 1 | Year 3 | Year 7 | Year 10 | Year 15 | Year 20 | APR | ||
8 | $0 | $104,000 | $112,486 | $131,593 | $148,024 | $180,094 | $219,112 | +4.00% | ||
9 | $2,000 | $102,000 | $106,243 | $115,797 | $124,012 | $140,047 | $159,556 | +2.00% | ||
10 | $4,000 | $100,000 | $100,000 | $100,000 | $100,000 | $100,000 | $100,000 | =0.00% | ||
11 | $5,000 | $99,000 | $96,878 | $92,102 | $87,994 | $79,976 | $70,222 | -1.00% | ||
12 | $6,000 | $98,000 | $93,757 | $84,203 | $75,988 | $59,953 | $40,444 | -2.00% | ||
13 | $7,000 | $97,000 | $90,635 | $76,305 | $63,982 | $39,929 | $10,666 | -3.00% | ||
Future Value |
Cell Formulas | ||
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Range | Formula | |
C5 | C5 | =InitBal1*AnnualRate1 |
D6:I6 | D6 | =LET(txt,OFFSET(D6,1,0),RIGHT(txt,LEN(txt)-5)) |
D8:I13 | D8 | =FV(AnnualRate1,D$6,[@[Annual Withdrawal]],-InitBal1,0) |
J8:J13 | J8 | =[@[Year 1]]/InitBal1-1 |
C9 | C9 | =Year1Appr1/2 |
C10 | C10 | =Year1Appr1 |
Named Ranges | ||
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Name | Refers To | Cells |
'Future Value'!AnnualRate1 | ='Future Value'!$C$4 | C5, D8:I13 |
'Future Value'!InitBal1 | ='Future Value'!$C$3 | C5, D8:J13 |
'Future Value'!Year1Appr1 | ='Future Value'!$C$5 | C9:C10 |
Is there a better way?