Custom rate prorating / Nested IFs?

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Fixed minimum rate for prorating calculation

For the second requirement, I would still like to use the same proration table at the above link however, since this will be on a different form altogether, the formulas will probably need to change to fit the criteria.

On this form, rather than prorate a weekly rate by the day after a one week minimum is met, here, I am trying to have it prorate by the week, except the 2nd week is half of the first, the 3rd week half of the 2nd and the 4th week is free.

Example:
Unit Rate: $200
Rental term: 3 weeks, 4 days / Subtotal = $350
Rental term: > 4 weeks / Subtotal still = $350
Rental term: < 1 week / Subtotal = $200

I’ve managed to manipulate the existing formulas by changing what the weekly formula rounds to in columns Q & R and adding an additional column S to calculate the 3rd week. But this next part is where it gets complicated.

Monthly. The monthly proration can actually remain the same as it is currently: after a one month minimum is met, it would prorate by the weeks and days but needs to ignore the additional column S which doesn’t pertain to monthly calculations. I just can’t seem to figure out how to make the subtotal formula work to meet both the monthly and weekly criteria. I’ve tried using nested IFs but it only seems to take me so far then it falls apart when trying to meet the minimum rate for time periods less the required duration. I can provide examples tomorrow when I’m back in the office.

Basically, the subtotal column needs to account for a weekly rental prorated by half of the 1st week, then half of the 2nd week unless the duration equals a week or less, when the drop down (E17) calls for a Weekly term. It also needs to account for a monthly rental prorated by the weeks and days unless the duration equals a month or less, when the drop down (E17) calls for a Monthly term.

Finally, just to make it even more challenging, I would like to introduce a Custom option to the drop down. This Custom option would disregard any and all prorating formulas when calculating the Subtotal but would still display the accurate rental duration in months, weeks and days as the table is currently set to do. Basically, if a user selects Custom in the drop down, they’ll be responsible for inputting the subtotal manually.

Is it even possible for one cell to process all of those variations? Nested IFs or some other way?
 

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Here are my examples where I've manipulated the existing Subtotal formula (T2) as much as my limited understanding of Excel can take me. It's close but not close enough because it does not work for all scenarios.

In this example, it is calculating correctly for a Weekly term because it is calculating the rate for 3 weeks correctly and zeroing out the 4th week as intended:
ORDER FORM -formula testing- 2022.xlsx
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTU
1DescriptionColumn2QTYUnit RateWeeksItem SubtotalTerms: WeeksMonthsWeeksDaysMonthsWeeksDaysMonthly RateWeekly RateWeek 2Week 3+SubtotalRental Period
2Billing StartSomething1200.003w,6d$350.00Weeks036036 200100503503w,6d
39/5/2022              
4Billing End              
510/1/2022               
Sheet1
Cell Formulas
RangeFormula
I1I1="Terms: "&$F1
F2:F5F2=IF($F$1="[ Term ]","",IF($F$1="Months",U2,IF($F$1="Weeks",U2,IF($F$1="Days",U2))))
G2:G5G2=T2
I2:I5I2=IF(ISBLANK(D2),"",SUBSTITUTE(I$1,"Terms: ",""))
J2:J5J2=IF(ISBLANK(D2),"",IF(I2="Months",DATEDIF($A$3,$A$5+1,"M"),0))
K2:K5K2=IF(ISBLANK(D2),"",QUOTIENT(DATEDIF(EDATE($A$3,J2),$A$5+1,"D"),7))
L2:L5L2=IF(ISBLANK(D2),"",DATEDIF(EDATE($A$3,J2),$A$5+1,"D")-7*K2)
M2:M5M2=IF(ISBLANK(D2),"",IF(AND(I2="Months",K2=4),J2+1,J2))
N2:N5N2=IF(ISBLANK(D2),"",IF(AND(I2="Months",K2=4),0,K2))
O2:O5O2=IF(ISBLANK(D2),"",IF(AND(I2="Months",K2=4),0,L2))
P2:P5P2=IF(ISBLANK(D2),"",IF(I2="Months",E2,""))
Q2:Q5Q2=IF(ISBLANK(D2),"",IF(I2="Months",ROUND(E2/4,2),E2))
R2,R5R2=IF(ISBLANK(D2),"",ROUND(Q2/2,2))
S2,S5S2=IF(ISBLANK(E2),"",IF(I2="Months","",(ROUND(R2/2,2))))
T2T2=IF(ISBLANK(D2),"",D2*MAX(IF(I2="Months",SUMPRODUCT(M2:O2,P2:R2),SUMPRODUCT(Q2:S2)),IF(I2="Months",P2),IF(I2="Weeks",Q2)))
U2:U5U2=IF(ISBLANK(D2),"",IF(M2<>0,M2&IF(AND(N2=0,O2=0),"m","m,"),"")&IF(N2<>0,N2&IF(O2=0,"w","w,"),"")&IF(O2<>0,O2&"d",""))
T3:T4T3=IF(ISBLANK(D3),"",D3*MAX(IF(I3="Months",P3,Q3),SUMPRODUCT(M3:O3,P3:R3)))
R3:R4R3=IF(ISBLANK(D3),"",(ROUND(Q3/7,2)))
T5T5=IF(ISBLANK(D5),"",D5*MAX(IF(I5="Months",P5,SUMPRODUCT(M5:O5,P5:R5)),IF(I5="Weeks",Q5,SUM(Q5:S5))))
Cells with Data Validation
CellAllowCriteria
F1List[ Term ],Months,Weeks,Days
C2:C5Any value


However, when I change the duration to less than a week, it is still adding up the weeks rather than referring to cell Q2 as it should for a one week minimum rate, $200:
DescriptionColumn2QTYUnit RateWeeksItem SubtotalTerms: WeeksMonthsWeeksDaysMonthsWeeksDaysMonthly RateWeekly RateWeek 2Week 3+SubtotalRental Period
Billing StartSomething1200.004d$350.00Weeks004004200100503504d
9/5/2022
Billing End
9/8/2022


When I switch the term to Monthly in the drop down and leave the duration at less than a week, here it correctly shows the Sub to equal the $200 rate, which in this case is the one month minimum rate:
DescriptionColumn2QTYUnit RateMonthsItem SubtotalTerms: MonthsMonthsWeeksDaysMonthsWeeksDaysMonthly RateWeekly RateWeek 2Week 3+SubtotalRental Period
Billing StartSomething1200.004d$200.00Months004004200.0050252004d
9/5/2022
Billing End
9/8/2022


However, when I change the duration to be longer than a week but less than a month, it doesn't stay with the $200 one month minimum rate as it should but instead calculates based on the conditional columns (M:O) and displaying the incorrect sub:
DescriptionColumn2QTYUnit RateMonthsItem SubtotalTerms: MonthsMonthsWeeksDaysMonthsWeeksDaysMonthly RateWeekly RateWeek 2Week 3+SubtotalRental Period
Billing StartSomething1200.003w,6d$300.00Months036036200.0050253003w,6d
9/5/2022
Billing End
10/1/2022


It's a mess. I'm a mess. I need help!
 
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I’ve managed to manipulate the existing formulas by changing what the weekly formula rounds to in columns Q & R and adding an additional column S to calculate the 3rd week. But this next part is where it gets complicated.
I wouldn't do it this way. Instead, this formula keeps the evaluation of the number of weeks in an array. We can go back to one part of the Original Num Weeks formula and compute the number of days for the rental (yes, I know this is a weekly rate...but this is easier, I think). Then we check the number of days to see if they are greater than 0,7,14,21 days, which is equivalent to determining if the rental term is at least 1 wk?, 2 wks?, 3 wks?, and 4 wks? So we'll get an array of TRUE's and FALSE's, which we then multiply by {1,0.5,0.25,0} to give us the fraction of the weekly base rate for each of those weekly sub-elements. Then we multiply that array by the base rate and sum.
Excel Formula:
=IF(I18="Weeks",SUM(Q18*(DATEDIF(EDATE($A$21,J18),$A$23+1,"D")>{0,7,14,21})*{1,0.5,0.25,0}),"")
So we can splice the above formula into the existing Subtotal to handle the "weeks" calculation while leaving everything else untouched. I'll have a look at that and your other "custom" option.
 
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Give this a try to see if it does what you want. This is version 3, based on the most recent change to version 2 I posted in the other thread. This version includes the formula splice I mentioned above and accounts for the "custom" option. Only the green cells have been updated, and the column I formulas to pull over the user selection are manual entries for now (for the color-shaded cells).
Mrexcel_20220915_Lil Stinker.xlsx
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRST
14introduces four options: months, weeks, days, customcarries over user selection for months, weeks, days, customif "months" then floor of date range (start to end) in months else 0 (correct for weeks and days)if "days" then 0 else QUOTIENT(date range from start + NumMonths to end in days, 7) (correct for months and weeks)date range from start + NumMonths to end in days - 7*NumWeeks (correct for months, weeks, and days)if "months" AND NumWeeks=4 then NumMonths+1 else NumMonthsif "months" AND NumWeeks=4 then 0 else NumWeeksif "days" then MAX(30,actual days) else if "months" AND NumWeeks=4 then 0 else NumDaysif "months" then use monthly "unit rate" else "" (for selection of weeks and days)if "months" then base weekly rate on monthly rate/4 else if "weeks" then "unit rate" else "" (applies to selection "days")if "days" then use daily rate directly else base daily rate on weekly rate/7 (applies to selection months and weeks). Also introduced logic check for "custom" to return ""enforces minimum charge stipulations: if "Months" then min chg of 1m else if "weeks" then min chg of 1w else if "days then min chg of 30d. Min chg is compared to standard subtotal computed with SUM({m,w,d} periods * {m,w,d} rates). Also spliced in array-based formula to compute week by week discounts for "weeks" selection.
15
16OriginalConditional
17Date RangeDescriptionQtyUnit RateWeeksItem SubtotalTerms: WeeksNum MonthsNum WeeksNum DaysNum MonthsNum WeeksNum DaysMonthly RateWeekly RateDaily RateSubtotalRental Period
18Computer Monitor12003w Custom030030    3w
19Speaker Set16.673w6.67Months0300306.671.670.246.673w
20Start DateKeyboard & Mouse Set16.673w20.01Weeks030030 6.670.9520.013w
219/14/22Computer Tower16.673w20.01Days030030 6.670.9520.013w
22End DateRed Stapler16.673w20.01Weeks030030 6.670.9520.013w
2310/4/22Red Stapler16.673w20.01Weeks030030 6.670.9520.013w
24inclusiveRed Stapler16.673w20.01Weeks030030 6.670.9520.013w
25              
26              
27Subtotal106.72
28Discount10.0%
29Net Amount96.05
30TOTAL AMOUNT96.05
Lil Stinker_v3
Cell Formulas
RangeFormula
I17I17="Terms: "&$E17
J18:J26J18=IF(ISBLANK(C18),"",IF(I18="Months",DATEDIF($A$21,$A$23+1,"M"),0))
K18K18=IF(ISBLANK(C18),"",IF(I18="Days",0,QUOTIENT(DATEDIF(EDATE($A$21,J18),$A$23+1,"D"),7)))
L18:L26L18=IF(ISBLANK(C18),"",DATEDIF(EDATE($A$21,J18),$A$23+1,"D")-7*K18)
M18:M26M18=IF(ISBLANK(C18),"",IF(AND(I18="Months",K18=4),J18+1,J18))
N18:N26N18=IF(ISBLANK(C18),"",IF(AND(I18="Months",K18=4),0,K18))
O18O18=IF(ISBLANK(C18),"",IF(I18="Days",MAX(L18,30),IF(AND(I18="Months",K18=4),0,L18)))
P18:P26P18=IF(ISBLANK(C18),"",IF(I18="Months",D18,""))
Q18Q18=IF(ISBLANK(C18),"",IF(I18="Months",ROUND(D18/4,2),IF(I18="Weeks",D18,"")))
R18R18=IF(ISBLANK(C18),"",IF(I18="Custom","",IF(I18="Days",D18,(ROUND(Q18/7,2)))))
S18S18=IF(ISBLANK(C18),"",IF(I18="Custom","",C18*MAX(IF(I18="Months",P18,IF(I18="Weeks",Q18,30*R18)), IF(I18="Weeks",SUM(Q18*(DATEDIF(EDATE($A$21,J18),$A$23+1,"D")>{0,7,14,21})*{1,0.5,0.25,0}), SUMPRODUCT(M18:O18,P18:R18) ))))
T18:T26T18=IF(ISBLANK(C18),"",IF(M18<>0,M18&IF(AND(N18=0,O18=0),"m","m,"),"")&IF(N18<>0,N18&IF(O18=0,"w","w,"),"")&IF(O18<>0,O18&"d",""))
K19:K26K19=IF(ISBLANK(C19),"",QUOTIENT(DATEDIF(EDATE($A$21,J19),$A$23+1,"D"),7))
O19:O26O19=IF(ISBLANK(C19),"",IF(AND(I19="Months",K19=4),0,L19))
Q19:Q26Q19=IF(ISBLANK(C19),"",IF(I19="Months",ROUND(D19/4,2),D19))
R19:R26R19=IF(ISBLANK(C19),"",(ROUND(Q19/7,2)))
S19:S26S19=IF(ISBLANK(C19),"",C19*MAX(IF(I19="Months",P19,Q19),SUMPRODUCT(M19:O19,P19:R19)))
I22:I26I22=IF(ISBLANK(C22),"",SUBSTITUTE(I$17,"Terms: ",""))
E18:E26E18=T18
F18:F26F18=S18
F27F27=SUBTOTAL(109,F18:F26)
F29F29=F27*(1-F28)
F30F30=F29
Cells with Data Validation
CellAllowCriteria
E17ListMonths,Weeks,Days,Custom
 
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Solution
Once again, you prove to be a maestro. I completely understand your explanation of adding in arrays, but I still can't comprehend how it actually works. It's like magic! I will put this through more rigorous testing over the next week to see if any abnormalities pop up. Otherwise, aces! Great stuff!

Thanks again!
 
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You're welcome...I'm happy to help. Let me know if my post of a few minutes ago comes through. I saw a post of yours from 5:13 PM today but I don't see it above. I responded to that post with a slight tweak to the Conditional Num Days formula (to address your comment about rounding days). If you don't see that response, I'll repost.
 
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