Am I off the mark about about Excel Potentials ?

keachie

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I've been having fun building my "Rolling Gradebook," especially with the help from women and men behind the curtains here. I wrote the following to a friend who's a regional school administrator. How far from reality have I strayed?

"As for the gradebook thingi, I have become much more aware of what I suspected might be happening in the application of this extremely fast and flexible program, Excel. The application in your case is to be aware of www.jedox.com. In a nutshell, by having a Webserver that is built around Excel, which can have interactive Excel applications running very quickly on-line, and which sends and receives Excel files virtually automatically, we have a case of mea desktop est tua desktop.

In short, an administrator at the top can get realtime data right on his desktop, and subordinates can be sending it almost without not even knowing it. The path flows both ways, so it's not necessarily the ultimate Big Brother tool.

In terms of developing Excel out to the max, there is a very friendly on-line community, huge and world wide, at www.mrexcel.com , which is very helpful for solving problems, and which I suspect is running under a Jedox like product, if not Jedox itself. It's remarkably fast and shows of the ability of Excel to hand text and formatting issues beautifully. It is the best help line, free or otherwise, and it is free, I've ever encountered. And, if you got such a stumper that nobody can figure it out, you can pay for the experts to grind away at it. They apparently make their money selling books about the more arcane aspects of Excel, programming in Visual Basic.

I'm guessing that there are now enough games out there based on this programming capability that soon kids will be able to load an Excel file and start playing a form of Tetris, won't that be fun ! It does offer a cheap way to teach a programming class, using the visual basic module that comes inside of Excel for free, a fact that I missed until I really needed it to modify macros. I don't think Microsoft really wants people to know about this, as they've done nothing that I know of to publicise the possibility. It would draw away from sales of C++ and Visual Studio for K12 academia. I'll have to do some searching on the topic.

Cheers!

Doug Keachie"
 

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I don't think you've strayed too far, but Jedox is pricey; maybe too pricey for a school (starts at about $15K).

You might want to look into Shared workbooks (the helpfile documents them pretty well), where several people can work on an Excel workbook interactively, albeit not real-time.

And you can create games in Excel. Aaron Blood has some examples.

HTH,

Smitty
 
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Too Pricy ?

For an individual school, yes, but for a District with an IT dept, no. As of 2004, San Francisco Unified had 65 IT people (and at least that many lawyers) and a budget of .5 billion. It would save enormous amount of time and money to shift over all their record keeping to a format native to handling numbers. No, I am not an MS employee or shill, it's just a call based on 30 years of watching chaos and waste in school administration.
 
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it's just a call based on 30 years of watching chaos and waste in school administration
My best friend is a teacher in Virgina; I hear about it all the time. ALthough the stories were worse in the last school he taught in: the Virginia Maximum Security Youth Correctional Facility.

And my wife's getting a Master's in Education...

Smitty
 
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I've seen and semi-followed jedox.com for quite some time now. It is very powerful and has it's distinct advantages. The major drawback for me - no VBA. Yuck! That's just too horrifying for me. LOL! Other than that, I'd say you're right on mark. I'd also say that it has a very slim margin of application. For the right company using it the right way, it can be a life-saver.
 
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Why mess around with Excel at all.... IF £15k isn't an issue why not buy SQL Server and build a real application infrastructure that could handle all the data & processing in a proper database environment :)
 
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